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Post by 4evercharmed on Jan 6, 2008 18:07:28 GMT -5
There u go, phoenyxangel. Finally someone agrees with me. First thing, marriage couple will eventually intend to quarrel one day. They will have issues even they r a loving couple, alright? Piper is stubborn and Leo has his reasons. Both of them just couldn't give in, although Leo is the only one who's doing it. LOL Look at what happened to Piper and Leo back in Season 2, they broke up over a small matter just because Leo used her club as a bait to lure a demon in and never have her permission yet. And even after their wedding, when Piper decided to make a passport for Leo, Leo refused. And they have their quarrels. Second thing, Paige has missed a lot having informations about her three newly found sisters for the past three years or even more. Doesn't she need to know them well just a little more?? Moreover Phoebe seems like keeping secrets from Paige about her family's past. One of the scripts from "Cat House": "Paige: See, now that's what I call critical sisterly information. How am I supposed to be petty and judgmental without all the info?" Maybe this time some "betrayal" from Piper's memories will make Phoebe talk along with Prue. LOL Don't u agreed?  |
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Post by Drama on Jan 6, 2008 22:31:20 GMT -5
Not every couple who doesn't fully agree goes to a counselor. As for the S2 thing, I don't have time to talk about that. (I have class in the morning.) The passport thing? Um..excuse Piper for NOT wanting Leo to orb them everywhere. Oh no, a crime! (Technically, it IS, but that's another story.)
So, just because they're magical, they get to do things differently? How do other people do it? Through stories. Now, Dan says he likes the idea for a flash back thing, and maybe we could. But surely not with that plot. Also, if that were to happen, I don't think it's fair for it only to be about the Halliwells. They missed out on Paige's life, too. So, if we do decide on a flashback episode, it wouldn't just be on the Halliwells, it should include Paige, too.
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Post by 4evercharmed on Jan 7, 2008 10:41:23 GMT -5
Well, then make it both ways. The Halliwells' and Paige's. So Prue, Piper and Phoebe will get to know Paige just a little more and so is Paige. Play fair.
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 7, 2008 11:12:36 GMT -5
You need to watch your tone your 4ever, we as staff have agreed with you to a certain extent, I even said a flashback episode would be good but still you ignored that and caused trouble. I for one am getting fed up with your behaviour and by looking at your Karma so are your fellow members.
I don't like cautioning active members like yourself but enough is enough, this is your first verbal warning. Please settle down and stop trying to cause trouble.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jan 7, 2008 15:33:44 GMT -5
I do like the idea of time jumping/flash backs. (Just look at my list of favorite episodes: All Halliwell's Eve, Morality Bites, That 70's Episode, etc, etc, etc...) But in my opinion, it wouldn't fit with the current status of Piper and Leo's marriage. They're really happy right now. (And I know that it obviously can't stay peachy keen permanently, because where is the fun or realism in that?) But for the moment, Piper and Leo are doing well, which would make marriage counseling out of place.
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Post by Rewitched on Jan 7, 2008 21:50:15 GMT -5
I don't mean to sound rude, especially since I'm nothing but a "lurker" and don't post very often, but I've been reading this debate between 4evercharmed and the other mods/admins and I really think it's quite disgusting, really, for 4evercharmed to be, basically, telling the writers what to do. Now, frankly, this is just my personal opinion but I feel it should be said. And I'm sorry if I offended anyone but, even though I don't comment 'round here, I feel as if I should after reading the latest few posts by 4evercharmed...
The first thing 4evercharmed has done that bugged me was go ahead and tell the writers off, no less, for adding the same storyline from the real 5x06 into C:RR. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing new storylines too, but I also love[/b] to have some of the old - much better plots from Charmed - involved in some way or another in C:RR too, this is what makes it so good some of the time. I thoughorly enjoy reading episodes that die-hard Charmed fans are already familiar with and, as I read on, discover the extra twists and new storylines added to make it C:RR friendly. I'm not sure I'm making a lot of sense here but all I mean is, having recycled storylines from the original show and incorporating them - whether they are episodic arcs, characters, sub-plot lines, character growths, powers, whatever it may be - is definitely a GOOD THING! Not only does it show that the actual Charmed writers did a few good things in their run, but it also shows that the C:RR writers don't limit themselves and they broaden themselves now and then to bring us - the readers - an all new, possibly better, version of the old storyline for us... and now with Prue. lol! I, for one, liked C:RR's version of "A Paige From the Past" better than Charmed's, and I even enjoyed C:RR's "Charmed Again" adaption better. I can probably say the same for how C:RR wrote Drake D'mon as well. So, 4evercharmed, instead of hating the writers (for example, this line written BY YOU made me cringe, "No offense but please be creative, people. Please." - do you even know what creativity is? Probably not) for, pretty much, taking a good Charmed storyline and making it even BETTER, you should be congratulating them for actually suceeding. The point of re-writing the bad-points from Charmed is making things better and sometimes tht needs to be done by including some things from the real Charmed in it! It's not easy to re-write a show, let alone an entire era of a show, and you're not helping by putting the writers down. Okay, it's great to give your opinion and nobody is stopping you from giving it, but the way you say it, and how you pretty much demand it... well, I don't have to continue. I guess you know where I'm going.
Secondly, the case of "Cat House". Ahh, my dear 4evercharmed... you most definitely should not have gone on about it the way you have (you even served yourself 2 karma points from me). Rather than ordering the writers to add an episode where Piper and Leo go to a counsellor and the other sisters go through time, which would have been exactly how the original "Cat House" went - and, as I stated above, C:RR only uses the original storyline as a basis and makes it their own from there - you could've asked it much nicer, something along the lines of "I was wondering if you had any flashback episodes planned for season 5; something similar to "Cat House", maybe?". Yes, I even admit that I would love a flashback episode as well but, considering the situation the C:RR writers have put Leo and Piper in at the moment, it's not even possible for them to go to a counsellor in anybody's wildest dreams - they're happy now, which is how they should remain, at least for a while.
So, while we're on the topic of flashback episodes, I have an alternative. Maybe there can be a future flashback episode where the sisters go back in time to witness past episode events, but it doesn't have to be through a spell cast at a counsellor's office, y'know?! There's almost HUNDREDS of different possibilities for a time-travelling episode. One of the coolest would be, once Paige gets a hang of her new power, she could take her sisters herself - or maybe go alone - and re-visit her (or her sisters') past. You never know what these C:RR writers can come up with...
Anyway, that was my two-cents. Whether people hate me for it, or love me, it was my opinion and I think it had to be said. By the way, to the writers, keep up the fantastic work; I'm loving season 5 so far and I absolutely enjoy reading a new episode every week, the overall storyline about Piper giving up her powers so that the other sisters could become the new P03 has intrigued me the most so far, I'm lovin' it. Looking forward to 5x08!!
- James.
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 8, 2008 13:00:28 GMT -5
James, thank you for your support, it's satsifying to know that I wasn't being too harsh on 4ever and I'm glad the members are as fed up with his tone as much as us. It's also nice to hear that the lurkers are still here and are still enjoying the series and now that you've said something again, maybe you'll post a little more often   Sorry about the double smiley, I normally hate it but it had to be done. And you've got at exactly what I mean, we can still do a flashback episode without all the bad that was in Cat House (that might be questionable, I know some did enjoy the episode more than I). Only problem with your idea is that Paige's power is limited, I think we already had Leo mention that it's dangerous for her to overuse her new power as it pyshically drains her of energy. But thanks for the comment and suggestions, it's always welcome. |
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Post by PhoenyxAngel on Jan 8, 2008 14:44:06 GMT -5
I really liked your post James, and agreed with you very much. So I added in a karma point for you Off the current subject: After watching Hell Hath No Fury yesterday I would like to suggest the furies making an appearance in a future episode. They are very interesting beings (not really demons but not exactly good beings). Unless you have already done a fury episode...I can't really remember. Sorry if it was already done and I completley forgot. lol. |
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Post by Drama on Jan 8, 2008 15:18:29 GMT -5
Brilliant post. I gave you a point, too because what you said was brilliant.
Phoenyxangel - We haven't used the Furies, BUT, we did use something similar in S4 as a way to bring out Piper's sadness leading to anger. 4x10 & 4x11 had the Vengeance demon turning Piper. That's how we reworked HHNF because HHNF is one of the best episodes of Charmed (in my top five favs).
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Post by PhoenyxAngel on Jan 8, 2008 15:58:42 GMT -5
Ok. I thought I rememberd Piper becoming a demon but I couldn't remember if it was a fury or something else. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a fury but I wanted to make sure. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 8, 2008 16:34:53 GMT -5
Yes the Vengeance Demons was extracted from the Fury idea so we could bring out a Hell Hath Piper which we probably wouldn't of saw otherwise, it was the perfect time to do so.
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Post by 4evercharmed on Jan 8, 2008 18:31:34 GMT -5
Please don't be mistaken. I wasn't using that kind of tone when I replying. I'm actually a nice person. I'm just saying of what I feel as I'm a straight forward person. I'm sorry if I offended u. Maybe I'm too obsessed with Charmed. Ha ha... I didn't mean it when I said it. I just feel that since it is called Reset Reality, the whole season should be a all-new story. Know what I mean?  I am really happy when Prue is alive, Paige have a new powers, Piper got pregnant early and Phoebe finally get proposed. I do like the stories u wrote. I even praised u for that for the last season. I'm just giving some ideas or options for ur stories. I didn't offended anyone in my life. Honestly, u don't even know me well and that I can understand. Sigh.... Okay... I just "sit" here by the computer and keep my mouth shut then if u still think I offended u all again.  |
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Post by leo on Jan 9, 2008 9:28:03 GMT -5
You know i liked that one episode with the firestarter and the source wanted his powers. Maybe you could have the seer try that and I loved and kind of not how you put Matt as the one from the future that saves it. Yet i still liked Chris's character but I still liked it. A
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Post by leo on Jan 9, 2008 9:31:35 GMT -5
You know i liked that one episode with the firestarter and the source wanted his powers. Maybe you could have the seer try that and I loved and kind of not how you put Matt as the one from the future that saves it. Yet i still liked Chris's character but I still liked it. Also I know i asked before about if time was reset and a demon killed the charmed ones and Paige try to go back and stop it and we see an alternate reality. I was wondering if maybe it could still be opened up for discussion or at least considered. It dosen't even have to be this. Any kind of alternate reality would be good. I really loved the epsidoe were COle reversed time so Phoebe and Piper never met Paige and hoped to see your take on it. So what ever you choice i'M just hopeing.
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Post by Drama on Jan 9, 2008 15:58:32 GMT -5
If you'd like to talk about an AU episode, there are other boards for that. I don't know which one right now off the top of my head because I'm busy, but start a thread there and let the people discuss. As for the firestarter - we already had a firestarter. I think somewhere in our four-part premiere, if I'm correct. |
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Sorry about the double smiley, I normally hate it but it had to be done.
