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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 18, 2006 2:20:12 GMT -5
What is Charmed: Reset Reality?
Have you ever wondered what it would be like if Shax's attack in All Hell Breaks Loose ended up differently? What if Leo had got there in time and healed both sisters? Well by reading Charmed: Reset Reality you can find out just that. Here at C:RR we go back to Season Four and start the season off completely differently. Guess what? The oldest sister Prue was never killed by Shax and the Power of Three were never broken. And when youngest sister Paige comes along the Charmed Ones become the Power of Four aswell. So watch us change history, watch us do all the wrongs right. Watch Charmed: Reset Reality! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2006 12:12:01 GMT -5
I've said it before, I'll say it again; I'm SO excited about this!!
If you're going to right some wrongs, here's some others that I'd like to see fixed:
1) Be more consistent with the earlier episodes! 4Ever's great at catching these, so I'm sure it will be part of it.
2) PERSONAL GAIN SPELLS HAVE *IMMEDIATE* CONSEQUENCES! Kern obviously thought that using personal gain spells were OK as long as they're humorous (Ie. changing reporters into rats...) and I found it disgusting. In the earlier shows, the humor was often the consequences; that's what I'd like to see.
3) WRONG THINGS DONE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS ARE STILL WRONG!! Phoebe almost burned for ths, and yet the sisters constantly forgot it in later years, or rather Kern did. It's one of the reasons I count Valkryie of the Dolls as the worst Charmed episode ever. Chris killing the Valkryie just so the sisters could enter Valhalla and then the sisters "borrowing" Darryl's soul without permission, just so they could get Piper back started me disliking Charmed (and Chris, since he never apologized for all of the horrible things he did in the earlier shows when obviously he was supposed to be an evil character until all the girls went gaga on the cutie-pie, so they had to change him into a good one, hence all of the inconsistencies in his character that were never explained. If we have to do something similar to S6, PLEASE include something like my Epilogue to Courtship of Wyatt's Father where Chris admits what he did wrong and apologizes!), especially when the sisters never properly thanked Darryl. I truly think Kern found that humorous, while I found it totally disgusting! The sisters can do such things--in order to save a sister, it makes sense--but both of these should've had immediate consequences (like Chris being sent back to the future where he belonged and the sisters losing their powers. Phoebe's not the only one who should've...)
4) The main thing. The murdering of all of our characters. With Prue still alive, all of our sisters should keep the wonderful personalities they had in S1-3. Piper remains shy and quiet, not whiney and b*tchy--she's still sarcastic; that's Piper, but not being the leader, she doesn't have to become b*tchy like Prue! Phoebe remains the loveable baby of the family (even if Paige IS younger...) and not a self-centered sl*t who went through men after men and forgot them the very next week. Paige remains a smart woman who went to college and is close to becoming a social worker; she's NOT a dumb Valley Girl! Unless Piper also becomes "normal", Leo remains a whitelighter and continues to guide the sisters; he never becomes Piper's errand boy. If Cole is vanquished, he STAYS vanquished! No coming back and turning him into a laughing stock, making him pitiful. And Prue remains protective of her sisters, but puts innocents above everything and keeps her sisters in line (S4-8 proves how much they needed her to do this!) This would make all the characters something the viewer can admire and you don't need Chris, Kira, Drake, Zankou and (heaven help us!) Billie to attempt to rescue the show!
5) Going together with the above, Charmed was supposed to be about women power. When male chauvinistic Kern took over, that changed. All of our wonderful females became whining, clinging b*tches, totally dependent on males. Melinda became Wyatt, the most powerful being ever. Chris became the most popular character. At the end, we see that the oldest grandchild is a boy, Matthew. Even Paige, who would've been happiest single, ended up needing and being given a man. I LOVED Henry (he should've ended up with Phoebe; a LOT better than Coop--they did Coop horrendously when he had SO much potential!), but it again made all the females look dependent on their males.
Do these and you will indeed correct a lot of the wrongs of Charmed, the things that for me made the last 3 seasons Charmed's spinoff "Leo Loves Piper" (not "Piper Loves Leo"--how can you say that when she constantly kept trying to make our angel so much less than he was! It's why Piper became my least-favorite sister and why I like the idea of Piper & Leo both becoming "normal" or at least powerless, although Piper would still be a witch and still be able to cast spells and make potions and ANDY coming back as their whitelighter--she would NEVER treat their whitelighter the way Piper treated Leo!) I prefer "Charmed" and hope that's what Charmed: Reset Reality will be about!
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 18, 2006 13:26:15 GMT -5
5) Going together with the above, Charmed was supposed to be about women power. When male chauvinistic Kern took over, that changed. All of our wonderful female became whining, clinging pregnant doges, totally dependent on males. Melinda became Wyatt, the most powerful being ever. Chris became the most popular character. At the end, we see that the oldest grandson, Matthew, is a boy. Even Paige, who would've been happiest single, ended up needing and being given a man. I LOVED Henry (he should've ended up with Phoebe; a LOT better than Coop--they did Coop horrendously when he had SO much potential!), but it again made all the females look dependent on their males. I couldn't agree more. I think this is why I despise Wyatt so much. He stole the thunder from our leading ladies and became "Super Boy". They made everything so male-based, and one of the things I LOVED about the show was that it had been all about female empowerment. (I'm a huge feminist and a Matriarchal worshipper to boot.) And they couldn't even stop with him being special and powerful. (Whatever happened to, "males can't have Warren powers"? I know people will say there are other male witches like Max and Richard, and I don't dispute that. But I believe Melinda Warren's line is different.) They had to give him infinite power. He's god-like. (Even if the kid had been female, I wouldn't have wanted her to have THAT many powers. I theorize that if Prue hadn't of left, Piper probably would've gotten pregnant in season four or at the end, and her Melinda would've had Paige's powers.) Anyway, that's just my two cents. ETA: I hope that with this rewrite, we'll be able to see a lot more Paige-Piper bonding moments. I think the last bit of recognition Paige got from Piper was in Sam I Am when she said Paige held the family together. Other than that, Kern seemed to have missed ALL the perfect moments for Piper and Paige to bond. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 18, 2006 13:33:58 GMT -5
Your both very right!
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Post by Drama on Aug 18, 2006 15:52:10 GMT -5
Es, I agree with you all the changed that must be Righted!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 1:41:24 GMT -5
I'm shocked that you agree! I truly didn't think you'd agree with my ideas on Piper, Leo and Chris!
I also think we should have a lot more sister-bonding. Remember--Piper doesn't have to resent the fact that Prue is dead and Paige is taking her place! I always felt that Piper and Phoebe looked at Paige more as a replacement in the Power of Three than a sister. And if Paige being around to turn the Power of 4 into the Power of 3, so Piper can have her normal life, why I think she'd absolutely LOVE Paige!
Oh, by the wayI Just to add some drama to the show (when everyone likes everyone, there isn't!) I DO like the idea of Paige warming up to Cole last; not because he's the Source, but just because he's half-demon! And if Leo takes Paige under his wing a bit too much, now THAT could get Piper's dander up...
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 19, 2006 2:07:04 GMT -5
I've always been a fan of the tension between Paige and Cole (as I was between the Prue and Cole tension). In fact, it makes me burst into giggles every time I read a good fanfic in which Paige and Prue discover their mutual dislike for our half demon, and double team him. (I don't remember who brought it up, but I liked the idea that maybe that was something for Prue to slowly warm up to Paige over.)
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 19, 2006 4:00:16 GMT -5
Yeah Prue and Paige only really get along when they have too. Basically in the first real showdown of the Season, the Source's kidnapps Phoebe and Piper and so there only way to get them back is to work together. And from there they relise they both arn't fond of Cole.
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Post by Drama on Aug 19, 2006 9:18:01 GMT -5
Well, with P/L/C....Yes, Chris did a lot of things in the beginning, and we didn't get sorries or anything like that. And, you know I LOVE your Epilogue, Es. That's what I wanted to see in Charmed. Oh, but sending Chris away...no. That I'm not a fan of too much..lol. *needs Chris* But, that we'll figure out if we even USE Chris later on.
Phoebe and Piper gone to let Prue and Paige get along....OH! I like that. Sorta like POWER OF TWO in S1. And, I love the idea of them bonding over their distrust of Cole.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 19, 2006 15:10:03 GMT -5
Phoebe and Piper gone to let Prue and Paige get along....OH! I like that. Sorta like POWER OF TWO in S1. And, I love the idea of them bonding over their distrust of Cole. I was just about to say that, when I read a little further and realized you already had.  I like that idea a lot. |
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Post by Drama on Aug 19, 2006 15:24:57 GMT -5
It's got a lot of potiential. The Oldest and Youngest. There are so many issues from that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 23:31:51 GMT -5
Especially when the youngest grew up as an only child. That means she was truly both the oldest AND the youngest, something they totally forgot on Charmed. During S4, I truly thought that PAIGE would end up being the leader of the Charmed Ones. That would allow Piper and Phoebe to continue their roles as middle and younger sister, the way I loved them best.
Of course, Kern wanted them to change, so the whole family dynamics would change (middle becomes oldest; youngest becomes middle, only becomes youngest), to keep the show from getting stale. I think that was a huge mistake, because it took away from possible drama.
In ours, as an only child, Paige won't be used to "taking orders", while Prue is used to ordering her sisters around, which Piper wasn't, so never really did near the beginning, giving them a chance to get used to each other. In ours, if Prue starts ordering Paige around the way she ordered Piper and Phoebe around (which was fine with them, because they were used to Prue being a substitute mother figue, like Grams). That could also bring up tension.
In the same way, I thought the show let Phoebe agree to let Paige be the baby much too quickly. Phoebe LOVED being the baby! Just because Paige was younger didn't mean she had to be treated that way or that Phoebe had to start acting go-between between Piper and Paige, the way Piper always had between Prue and Phoebe. I would think that if Prue or Piper started treating Paige as the baby just because she's the youngest, BOTH Paige and Phoebe would resent it, and hence more tension. That, figuring out how Paige fits into the family, should be the biggest plotline of S4, even more than the Source or his demons!
Whatcha think, Dan?
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 20, 2006 6:04:18 GMT -5
Hit the nail on the head, Charmed is not just about demons but the bond between sisters too, after Season Three that seemed to vanish apart from the odd episode, most of them done badly anyway. Charmed turned very much into to Sex in the City, that is not how it should of been. The show is about Paige finding the love of her life or Leo trying to prove to Piper he is worthy to be her husband again or even Phoebe sleeping with every man she comes across.
It's about the magic and the family as Piper rightly said "This is a family show!" (Bare Witch Project). Charmed was taken on a love wagon rather then the demon train. Yes every show has it's Romeo and Juliet (Leo and Piper) but Charmed took it to far in the end, everything had to be perfect it had to have a happy ending. Hello this is Charmed, nothing is perfect!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2006 8:02:15 GMT -5
Leo tryig to prove ot Piper he is worthy to be her husband again?? GIve me a break! Try Piper trying to prove to Leo that she is worthy to be his wife again after she constantly tried to turn him into less than what he is! I WOULD like to see that on C:RR -- during the time travel episode, find out that Leo finally gave in, became mortal, but died, and then the consequences--all the witcheswho died because their whitelighter wasn't around to save them! Or maybe letting Paige and Leo getting close enough, with Paige accepting Leo as a whitelighter that he starts taking a liking to her! If we're going to keep Leo angelic the whole time, Piper HAS to find out that trying to change him is NOT a good idea!
Sorry, that's one of my soapboxes; I hate Piper for what she did to Leo, while I want to continue to love her, as I did in S1-4!
Othewise, I agree with you totally!
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Post by Drama on Aug 20, 2006 9:45:35 GMT -5
Es, your post about the families...LOVE THAT. It is so true. Only child..that would be fun to work with. Like in S5..Paige was starting to become Head Witch...with Prue here...oh the fun! And the baby role..love that too. I agree that the sisterly dynamics NEED to be a major plot of the show.
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I like that idea a lot.