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Post by Fourever Charmed on Feb 3, 2008 5:23:50 GMT -5
So I just got my Season 6 DVDs today (they didn't have Season 4 *sigh*) and I decided to start with rewatching "Chris-Crossed" (I was thinking of you, Jackie). When it was over, the next episode was "Witchstock" and although it's the worst sole continuity catastrophe in Charmed history (no pun intended), I decided to watch it.
AGH!
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1. First of all, Penny, my Goddess!! It was 1967 in that episode. I'm sorry, but that's only eight years before the events of "That 70's Episode" and people do NOT change that much without plastic surgery or some serious magical reconstrution! (Not to mention, Young Penny didn't even look a thing like that, at least according to the picture of Young Penny in "How To Make A Quilt Out Of Americans.")
2. LEO! *hair pull* I'm sorry, but Leo grew up in the 30's and 40's! I know that the 60's were a wild time, but according to Leo's behavior in previous seasons, the personality progression makes no sense. i.e. When Leo gets upset at Piper for paying for his half of lunch. (I think that was "Primrose Empath," but I'm not 100%.) That is the Leo, not some hippy guy who hits on every witch he sees and uses cheesy Astrology pickup lines!
3. Alan Halliwell? *head bang* It's Jack!
4. This episode was so absolutely meant for Finola to be in that role! If they couldn't cast her, they should've put off the episode! I mean, come on. That scene in the beginning where Paige appears and she says, "I've heard so much about you!" That would've made such a killer mother-daughter moment! (Which was how it was supposed to be. How pig headed that they couldn't just wait for Finola, who would've killed [again, no pun intended] in that role.)
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Post by Astral Echo on Feb 3, 2008 15:57:47 GMT -5
I prefer Allen to Jack, the name is too modern and common to be part of the family, Penny has more taste in men than that. I just wish they had Allen from the start!
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Post by Drama on Feb 3, 2008 15:59:37 GMT -5
But they didn't, and THAT's the problem. It doesn't matter the name, it matters that they KEEP THE SAME NAME. *head bang* Like, was it THAT hard to keep that consistant? Apparently so.
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Post by Astral Echo on Feb 3, 2008 16:02:09 GMT -5
It's joke isn't it, you'd think Kern would of at least picked up on that during the production of the episode if the writers failed too.
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Post by Astral Chaos on Feb 3, 2008 18:43:44 GMT -5
[rant] 1. First of all, Penny, my Goddess!! It was 1967 in that episode. I'm sorry, but that's only eight years before the events of "That 70's Episode" and people do NOT change that much without plastic surgery or some serious magical reconstrution! (Not to mention, Young Penny didn't even look a thing like that, at least according to the picture of Young Penny in "How To Make A Quilt Out Of Americans.") 2. LEO! *hair pull* I'm sorry, but Leo grew up in the 30's and 40's! I know that the 60's were a wild time, but according to Leo's behavior in previous seasons, the personality progression makes no sense. i.e. When Leo gets upset at Piper for paying for his half of lunch. (I think that was "Primrose Empath," but I'm not 100%.) That is the Leo, not some hippy guy who hits on every witch he sees and uses cheesy Astrology pickup lines! 3. Alan Halliwell? *head bang* It's Jack! 4. This episode was so absolutely meant for Finola to be in that role! If they couldn't cast her, they should've put off the episode! I mean, come on. That scene in the beginning where Paige appears and she says, "I've heard so much about you!" That would've made such a killer mother-daughter moment! (Which was how it was supposed to be. How pig headed that they couldn't just wait for Finola, who would've killed [again, no pun intended] in that role.) [/end rant] 1. Your right Penny looks nothing like she did in "That 70's Episode" or the Picture in "How To Make A Quilt Out Of Americans." Also ( IMO) they made Patty sound as if she was a young child when it would have only been about 3/4 years before Prue was born. 2. Nothing like the Leo in past seasons. It was "Primrose Empath," and his personality is completely different. 3. To me he will always be Jack Halliwell NOT Alan Halliwell. And Grams didn't like Victor because he was a Mortal so I have always thought Jack would be a Witch. 4. Finola would've been GREAT in this role. I just pretend that this episode never existed. P.S. I know this is Off-Topic but has anybody else noticed that in Season 6 Rose has a mustache!? |
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Post by Drama on Feb 3, 2008 18:54:28 GMT -5
I pretend, too.
No, I definitely believe that Jack was mortal, but I think what happened was that whatever happened to him caused her to become bitter. She had how many husbands and whatnot? I think her failed relationships are what caused her to have a grudge on men and mortals.
PATTY! OMG, yes. They make her sound like a little child, but she couldn't have been because a few years later, Prue is born.
*head bang*
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Feb 3, 2008 19:57:10 GMT -5
Also ( IMO) they made Patty sound as if she was a young child when it would have only been about 3/4 years before Prue was born. No, I felt like that too. Which shouldn't have been the case, since Patty would've been about 17 (or just a few months away from 17, but I can't remember which month the calendar said it was) in 1967. And Prue was born only three years later. |
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Post by Charmed Destiny on Feb 3, 2008 20:41:34 GMT -5
I agree with the Penny thing and how she was so young, and how they should have used Finola. It was really a Patty episode.
I am a Grams [Jennifer Rhodes] fan and I think she is amazing.
Wow, I never realized that Patty was so young when she had Prue, 20 years old?
But she did have four children and died when she was twenty-eight.
Haha and about the Jack/Alan Halliwell thing, I just think of it as a full name like: Jack Alan Halliwell and Alan is his middle name.
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Post by Xenith on Feb 3, 2008 21:04:16 GMT -5
Just for the heck of it I'm going to attempt to fanwank away the continuity errors. 1.) Penny was using a glamour spell or a spell to suspend her aging. (If a warlock can, then why can't a witch.) After ditching the flower power she came to realize the error of her ways and undiid the spell with her age rapidly catching up with her. 2) Leo was the victim of a free love spell cast by one of the hippie witches (probably Grams) to lighten up his boring (to a hippie) personality. 3) Hippie Penny thought the name Jack sounded too square, and either he changed it or shre cast an identity spell to change it for him to the more groovy sounding "Allan". Better?  |
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Feb 3, 2008 21:07:18 GMT -5
1.) Penny was using a glamour spell or a spell to suspend her aging. (If a warlock can, then why can't a witch.) After ditching the flower power she came to realize the error of her ways and undiid the spell with her age rapidly catching up with her. LOL My favorite is this one, because in a twisted, fanwonked way, it kind of works, seeing as how Penny is, as Jackie put it to me last week, "The Queen of Personal Gain!" |
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Post by Drama on Feb 3, 2008 21:16:27 GMT -5
LMAO! Oh, X. You know how to play devil's advocate. And, I agree with Camille. Penny's age thing could be explained like that and it would work for her.
As much as it makes sense for Leo....*sighs*
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Post by PhoenyxAngel on Feb 3, 2008 22:44:04 GMT -5
I always laugh at the lack of continuity in charmed episodes....but this episode! My God, I couldn't stop laughing.
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Post by Prince Charmed on Feb 3, 2008 23:12:52 GMT -5
Lord this episode is full of continuity errors.. but, let's face it, Charmed is not the postershow for consistency.
The one that personally irks me the most is 'Desperate Housewitches' from Season 8. the most irritating continuity error EVER... when they are in Magic School about to confront the Source and Paige asks how they vanquished him last time.
Um, HELLO?! She was there... all THREE times they did it.
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Post by Astral Echo on Feb 6, 2021 20:13:53 GMT -5
It's just one of the many episodes in the final three seasons that I simply pretend never happened. I've definitely only seen it once and while I'll get around to it during my rewatch, that'll probably be the last time I put myself through it.
As you said, with Finola unavailable, they should've just dropped it. They could've kept the idea in their back pocket if they were so keen on it. Would've have been out of place during Season 7.
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Post by Tim on Feb 6, 2021 20:20:03 GMT -5
That's what I did in my Rex and Hannah story, Journey To Yesterday. In that story, I sent R&H back to 1958. While there, they met the young Penny, who was in her thirties at that time (I'm using her 1924 birth year). I wrote her at the conservative character we all know.
As for Witchstock, I just ignored it completely. It stomped all over established continuity that there was simply no other option for me.
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