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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jun 30, 2007 14:15:18 GMT -5
the producers sure did a good job of making the fans hate him. One of my biggest pet peeves with the show. Cole was a brilliant character and he had chemistry with all of the girls (both romantic and non-romantic, it just depends on who you like him with I guess). Either way, they made a huge mistake when they destroyed his character. I will never believe that that's really what he turned into. He was too good for that. And despite what the show did, he'll always be Phoebe's true love, IMO. What an injustice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2007 14:43:49 GMT -5
the producers sure did a good job of making the fans hate him. One of my biggest pet peeves with the show. Cole was a brilliant character and he had chemistry with all of the girls (both romantic and non-romantic, it just depends on who you like him with I guess). Either way, they made a huge mistake when they destroyed his character. I will never believe that that's really what he turned into. He was too good for that. And despite what the show did, he'll always be Phoebe's true love, IMO. What an injustice. On that we can agree 100%! Along with the way they ruined Leo's character, Piper's character and Phoebe's character, it was truly character-homicide in the worst of ways. They were suppose to GROW, not REGRESS! It's the only reason why I'm glad that my own favorite sister died--Kern didn't have a chance to ruin her character!
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Post by Brightside on Jun 30, 2007 15:04:40 GMT -5
I do believe they ruined Phoebe and Cole, but I never hated Leo. I think the person he became was very believable. As a whitelighter he was this passive guide, and he slowly matured into this person who was a bit more free to think on his own and his family. They made his family his passion. I loved the fact that he lost the "pacifism" after season six. As for Piper, I do agree that she became a nag, but I still continued to love her character for the fighter that she was. Even in the end, she was the perfect martyr-in-training.
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Post by jh7058622 on Jul 1, 2007 19:23:05 GMT -5
Piper and Prue to me where the greatest characters on the show (I thought Piper throughout was the best) followed by Paige and then Phoebe. I know a lot of people love Phoebs but I felt after she was given her levitation power she began to get corny and I began to feel like the show was just trying to compete with Buffy, Dark Angel, and Alias and that power had nothing to do with premonition. I would have rather they gave her empathy early then have had her be able to do funnel others powers in season 3 and not have given her levitation at all.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 1, 2007 20:25:04 GMT -5
Piper and Prue to me where the greatest characters on the show (I thought Piper throughout was the best) followed by Paige and then Phoebe. I know a lot of people love Phoebs but I felt after she was given her levitation power she began to get corny and I began to feel like the show was just trying to compete with Buffy, Dark Angel, and Alias and that power had nothing to do with premonition. I would have rather they gave her empathy early then have had her be able to do funnel others powers in season 3 and not have given her levitation at all. Ditto. Levitation really had nothing to do at all with premonitions. Prue, IMO, should've gotten levitation as it would've been an obvious advancement of her telekinesis. Or, had they not been stupid and given it to Phoebe, then Paige in seasons 4-8. Phoebe should've only gotten mind based powers. Empathy I was okay with, because it went along with "timing, feeling, and phases of the moon" from 1x01. But levitation was a mistake. I think they just wanted to give her a more active power (and, maybe, keep continuity with season two's "Morality Bites" future episode). I think a more reasonable approach to a mind based, "active" power would've been Mutant X's Emma DeLauro route, where she developed psionic blasts (a little ball of psychic energy from her forehead that temporary knocked someone out). It was doable, the writers were just lazy. *sigh*
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Post by Xenith on Jul 2, 2007 9:33:04 GMT -5
Seriously the only way I was able to keep my sanity about levitation was to tell myself that it wasn't actually Phoebe's natural power, that it was actually just a little bit of the dragon warlock's power that the genie missed removing because it had mixed with her own biology...
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Post by Drama on Jul 2, 2007 15:07:42 GMT -5
OH! I totally agree with that explaination, X! It's the only thing that really makes sense with it.
Also, MB had it, and it does make you wonder why they thought of that power for her...
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 2, 2007 17:15:14 GMT -5
Also, MB had it, and it does make you wonder why they thought of that power for her... I don't think they really put much thought into the MB storyline, other than they wanted Phoebe to be really powerful (she had two obvious other powers where the other two, older sisters, only had very advanced forms of their original powers) to fit the storyline for her killing a man thus forcing The Elders to send them to the future to create a future episode. Then in S3, they had a conversation that probably looked a lot like this: "Hey, let's give Phoebe an active power!" "What kind of active power?" "What about that electric power from the future episode?" "No, that's too powerful...But we could use that levitation power!" "Hey, good thinking! We'll just do that then!"
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Post by Drama on Jul 2, 2007 17:28:10 GMT -5
*head bang*
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Post by jh7058622 on Jul 2, 2007 21:00:35 GMT -5
Piper and Prue to me where the greatest characters on the show (I thought Piper throughout was the best) followed by Paige and then Phoebe. I know a lot of people love Phoebs but I felt after she was given her levitation power she began to get corny and I began to feel like the show was just trying to compete with Buffy, Dark Angel, and Alias and that power had nothing to do with premonition. I would have rather they gave her empathy early then have had her be able to do funnel others powers in season 3 and not have given her levitation at all. Ditto. Levitation really had nothing to do at all with premonitions. Prue, IMO, should've gotten levitation as it would've been an obvious advancement of her telekinesis. Or, had they not been stupid and given it to Phoebe, then Paige in seasons 4-8. Phoebe should've only gotten mind based powers. Empathy I was okay with, because it went along with "timing, feeling, and phases of the moon" from 1x01. But levitation was a mistake. I think they just wanted to give her a more active power (and, maybe, keep continuity with season two's "Morality Bites" future episode). I think a more reasonable approach to a mind based, "active" power would've been Mutant X's Emma DeLauro route, where she developed psionic blasts (a little ball of psychic energy from her forehead that temporary knocked someone out). It was doable, the writers were just lazy. *sigh* I always thought that Emma's power was a little corny (not the power itself but the interpretation of it "I mean A mind bullet comming from her head') Mind control/telepathy or Empathy always made more since to me for Phoebe.
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Post by Drama on Jul 2, 2007 22:00:27 GMT -5
I like empathy and it could have worked for Phoebe, except she didn't have Empathy. Prue did in S3. Phoebe had...the ability to use others' power.
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Post by xrs on Jul 4, 2007 9:04:59 GMT -5
Since we are writing about powers...
A friend of mine (the one who told me about this site) made a note (of sorts) about the Charmed ones' powers. I promised him to translate (and modify it for better reading) and publish it here, but i never got around to it, till you reminded me, via your posts. I find his "Powers List"-a product of our somewhat lengthy dicussions on the subject- (completely different than the ones the Charmed have in the show) very interesting too, so here goes... Note: Each power has two "marks". One is the "starting point" (the power at first) and the other is the "End point" (how powerful a power may be). There are four sisters. They have four powers each. Prue: Control and interaction with the Cosmos (conforms the World according to her will) [From "stronger" to "weaker"]
1. Energy Surges (harmful)/Energy Bolts (very destructive) 2. Telekinesis/Dissolution of Matter upon sight (like the power that destroyed the Attic in "Morality bites") 3. Conjuring of Small/Large inanimate objects (no larger than her mass though) 4. Levitation/Flying (not with superhuman speed like superman, mind you)
Piper: Control and manipulation of Molecules-of herself or of others (Conforms herself to fit the Cosmos, according to her wishes, though) [from "stronger" to "weaker"]
1. Molecule slowing (initialy the target of her power moves in slow motion)/ Petrifaction (turning something or someone to stone) 2. Shapeshifting of inanimate objects/Shapeshifting of body parts to inanimate matter (e.g. she can turn her hands to metal) 3. Superhuman strength/Superhuman strength and dexterity (of, let's say 5-10 men?) 4. Superhuman speed of hand/"Road-Running" (not as fast as superman, but very fast)
Phoebe: Synchronization and understanding of the Cosmos; that allows her to "forsee" (understands things by empathizing, in order to influence them) [from "weaker" to "stronger"]
1. Premonitions/advanced premonitions (sencing of additional info about her visions, feeling things while in them) 2. Empathy/Telepathy (first one "feels" emotions; thought reading is much more difficult) 3. Mental "stoppers"/Mental forcefield to protect herself and others (a weakened and difficult to maintain version of Wyatt's "the All-Mighty" force field) 4. Thought implanting/Coersive mental manipulation (a form of Hypnosis)
Paige: Half Whitelighter/Half "Prue" powers; with a whitelighter edge to them, though. Controls/interacts and heals by completion the Cosmos (understanding, yet controling, something in between Prue and Phoebe). [from weaker to stronger]
1. Astral projection/Cloning in two (ever imagined two Paiges?) 2. Telekinetic Orbing (as in the show;with less potency than Prue's telekinesis, though) 3. Healing of one/of two simutaniously (not of herself) 4. Orbing of herself/of herself and a number of others
P.S. (from author): Because all these powers seem excessive, bear in mind that i imagine them fighting with several HUNDRED Demons at once, as a team. I always found it very unrealistic that demons didn't attack as an army, or ambush the Charmed in large numbers in the Underworld to defeat them by the force of their numbers. It seems to me that they would need all the firepower their particular "traits" would allow them to have.
P.S. (from me): Fell free to comment. That's the reason of this post anyway...
xrs
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Post by 4evercharmed on Jul 11, 2007 9:41:46 GMT -5
When will Season 5 going to "air"? Can't wait anymore.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 11, 2007 9:49:50 GMT -5
When will Season 5 going to "air"? Can't wait anymore. Right now, we're thinking October, but nothing has been confirmed yet.
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Post by Charmed Destiny on Jul 13, 2007 14:33:15 GMT -5
Wooohhooo haha. I can't wait for season 5
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